Parker Live The Parker area, online.
Current affairs in Quartzsite have been big news in recent months, and have brought with them charges of corruption, troublemaking and nepotism.
On that last charge, a Parker Live reader comments:
“We live in the land of political nepotism. If an employee is accused of theft, the police are all too zealous to show up and slap on the cuffs, willy-nilly, then ask questions later. However, when the accused is employed by the public — a member of the fraternal order of politicians — all of law enforcement is suddenly [impotent].” – Jackal
Is there any truth in this with regard to how government relates to law in the United States? Give us your opinion here.
You know what’s funny about you getoverit? You originally took me to task because of the way I stood up to the tryanny and abuse of those in power. (I started 5 years ago) You said I didn’t get it, and there is a right way and a wrong way, and proper time and place, etc.. No matter what I did, Ponce and QPD 10 are the smart heroic people here. To you, I’m a problem child, stupid, a dork, etc..
You drew first blood! Then when I call you a yellow bellied bag of wimp for your cowardly way of attacking me, you now claim you can voice your opinion any way you want. Why can’t I??? Oh, that’s right, you are the controller here. I better just sit down and have a heaping spoonful of STFU!
You control freaks need to get a grip! But with all of your years of indoctrination and training, you’re not about to let others speak freely! (That’s only reserved for you, in the shadows, behind a mask)
Wow look at the [...] himself calling people names. Roth she’s not saying you can’t voice your opinion your way go ahead and voice it about the problems in Quartzsite what she is trying to tell you is your going out of your way for talking to her as if she is a number of people you seem to think she is when she isn’t any of them is a bore. Why do you worry so much about who posts on here? Just have to try an be up on everyone don’t you? I happen to know getoverit worked with her for many years. She is aware of the problems in La Paz County and would like to see a lot of changes. So what’s wrong about that?
You don’t get it. Getoverit attacked me for my way of standing up to the corruption, YEARS before anyone cared. Now, he/she/it says it’s ok for him to do it his way, but my way is bad, dumb, etc… Like the Sheriff, you can’t have it both ways.
A lot of people want to see changes, but only a few actually do something about it. I’m one of those rare people who actually do something and I’ve got the arrows in my back to prove it!!!
What makes you think I’m not doing something about it? Just because you don’t see me on a video or in a photo with a sign in my hand protesting against the corruption doesn’t mean I’m not doing anything about it. See in in QTZ saturday?
Come on up and say “hi.” I look forward to meeting you!
This weekend shold be a great turnout. Let’s all hope these people coming from Phoenix can make a difference for Qtz.
The People From Phoenix??? What about the people from La Paz County making the difference?????? We need to fix ourselves!!!!!!
Here, watch this smart American. Here’s ideas that can set us all free!!!
http://youtu.be/BmQy-QLL5eA
Oh so Mike are you against the Mayor inviting the 2 AZ Legislature reps to speak in honor of the 9 officers and evidence tech? So you think Quartziste can fix things all on their own and these people don’t need to come and help?
Apparently some people on this site can’t read and refuse to listen to what others have to say but expect everyone to listen to thier shananigans. First of all Common Sense and GetOverIt have it dead on: The Sheriff of La Paz County has no say over Jeff Gilbert and the way he runs his Office. If one of the QPD officers is doing something unbecoming to the Dept then that is something that needs to be taken up with Gilbert NOT the Sheriff. Does the Sheriff go to QPD, PPD or CRIT when there is an issue in his office? No. So why would a QPD issue be taken to the Sheriff? Like they said you need to contact the AG’s office and tell them your complaints! Yes of course the Sheriffs Dept will assist QPD if need be but do they patrol Qtz 24/7? No. That is why it’s called an assist. None of you are coming down on DPS in all of this and they sometimes assist QPD don’t they? They sure do! DPS Directors have just as much say in Qtz as the Sheriff does.
Roth you say the Sheriff was circling the parking lot of Town Hall in his car? Are you certain it was the Sheriff himself or was it just a car with the Sheriff logo on the side? The reason I ask is because the Sheriff doesn’t drive a car, he drives a truck. So before you accuse him of being somewhere and/or doing something let’s make sure it’s actually him first huh?
It was him, he was a passenger.
Some Sheriff’s have balls, others pretend to have them.
Very well said tired, In fact the Sheriff can tell DPS to get lost we don’t need you in our entire count. Tell me what difference does it make Mike if the Sheriff was down there he can go anyplace he wants in the County, maybe he just wanted to make sure what ever was going on that day was peaceful. Now if a Quartzsite Police Officer or even Jeff Gilbert himself committed attempted murder or even murder or a crime of such a high degree the Sheriff’s Department would be down there arresting them. But as far as the charges Jeff Gilbert is being charged with or even the Town Manager it’s not a crime for them to handle. I think we all want to see Jeff and Taft get delt with but it’s gotta be done by the right people.
wildone, did I say I was against the two legislature’s showing up?
What I said and meant was WE SHOULD be able to fix our own problems. We shouldn’t be begging for help from the outside world. Do you think these people are going to come and campaign in the next elections too? Do you think we should register them to vote so we can start winning some elections? The answer is we as a County and community got into this mess and we ought to figure out a way to get out of it, or we deserve this government we have. (at least YOU do)
tiredofyourbs, you’re right, the sheriff should stay all nice and cuddly in his cocoon in Parker! Nobody wants him around anyway. He’s loyal to his friends first, citizens last. His Oath of office? Just a formality!
Nowhere anywhere did I ever say the Sheriff should come down here and whip Gilbert into shape, or ship him out. Your hatred for me blinds you from the reality of the situation.
HOWEVER, I have asked the Sheriff to at least talk to him, or at least talk with us, the concerned citizens who were taking it on the chin because of Gilbert. If you have read my posts here I have asked him to call Gilbert and try to talk some sense into him. (is that against your almighty laws???) I even met with the Sheriff 1.5 years ago before this became a crisis. Where did it go? NOWHERE. It’s obvious the Sheriff is beholden to Gilbert for some reason.
You guys are all the Establishment (probably even the same one or two people hiding behind multiple screen names)who doesn’t want to rock the boat, don’t make waves that might disturb your paychecks! When the situation gets worse in this county, and it will, don’t expect the hard working non government tit sucking Americans to care too much about you and your precious paychecks!
Hey Mike I never said I hated you dude, just asking a few questions. I’m sure your not the only one who asked the Sheriff to talk to Jeff, but what makes you think he hasn’t? How do you know he hasn’t picked up the phone and tried to talk some sense into Jeff? And from what I see on some of these posts are people who are trying to tell you it’s not Lowery’s place to do babysit Jeff. I’m sure the last thing anyone wants is for a C.O.P and the Sheriff to be at odds with eachother could not be a good thing when each department neess back up. And to say Mayor is begging AZ state reps to help isn’t fair to him. The man is looking for support from the state nothing wrong with that. I understand you feel just the people in the county should be able to fix things but it never hurts to have the help and support of others. Your not a bad guy Mike and I like to think neither am I. We all want the same thing. But just like cooking a piece of meat your going to cook it your way and others are going to do it their way. What is important is it’s cooked.
Hey Folks,
Along with an elected position comes the prestige of that position. With that the respect of the holding of that office has a larger impact on the State reps that the title holds. I think that Roth’s entire point is that the Sheriff can contact state politicians and, with the respect of his title, make an impact that will sway the way the state acts against the corruption in Q town. The fact that you attack his desire to have ANYBODY further look into the corruption in itself indicates that you are comfortable with the corruption and just want Roth to go away. WTF? Don’t you all for a second think that a phone call from the Sheriff to the AG office will have more impact than a phone call from any of us? The Sheriff is the HIGHEST law enforcement officer of all the non Tribal lans in La Paz County. His voice has power. He just refuses to get involved. Peace
Roth and Lost,
Just like Wildone said, how are you certain that Sheriff Lowery hasn’t called Gilbert and spoke with him about the issues? How to do you for certain which side he actually stands on? For all you know he could be on your side Roth but because of the elected position he is in he isn’t aloud to state which side he agrees with. You’re so fast to point fingers at him and call him names BUT the reality of the situation is you have absolutely NO idea what he thinks is morally right. Just because you met with him and haven’t heard from him doesn’t mean he doesn’t see your side. You want to say his position gives him authority to do this and to do that but maybe you should sit back for just one second and really think about it. Lost you’re right he is the highest authority in La Paz County, on land that does not belong to any other entity FIRST! Let’s take Parker for instance, some of the land is CRIT some of it is PPD and the remaining is La Paz County. If you call dispatch wanting to report a crime then it depends where you are in the TOP which agency will be handling the case. If the crime happened on PPD land then the Sheriffs Dept has no jurisdiction over the crime and cannot handle it. Same with Qtz, the Town of Qtz is QPD jurisdiction and the outlying areas is La Paz and/or DPS. Whatever happens in Qtz then it is the responsibility of QPD to handle the issue. Roth, you can assume I work for LPCSO all you want it doesn’t matter to me but the fact of the matter is I don’t so I’m not worried about making waves. I’m just like you, standing up for what I believe in. It just so happens I back Sheriff Lowery and every officer that wears the uniform whereas you obviously do not.
I just spent a weekend with LOTS of law enforcement (real Patriots, not the crap we call leadership in La Paz County) I don’t care how they have always done things here, there are still men and women in uniform who know what their Oath of office means. Unfortunately, Jeff Gilbert and Sheriff Lowery haven’t the foggiest idea what they swore to uphold and protect! Good luck with that nonsense
And you of course Roth know for a fact non of those officers ever made a mistake huh?
You a 100 percent not one single one of them ever worked for a department that had problems such as Jeff? Those officers you hung out with have taken the same exact oath as the officers for QPD and LPCSO and not one of them are anymore perfect. I’m quite sure they didn’t sit down with you and tell you any of their mistakes. Have to agree with tiredofthenonsense on this one.
I can’t believe what my eyes just read Paul. Wow you must of been an awsome officer. sorry Mike I agree with tire and getoverit I too would not be so shocked to find that some of those officers you spoke to have always had wings during their careers. Found something online I think is kinda interesting wonder if those officers that you spent time with would also.
Question
Hello Commander, I was wondering if you could enlighten me on your most difficult call while working in the field. Like any time you had to mentally decide whether it was worth arresting someone for what they did. Also, If this person who was doing something illegal was a Police Officer, would that affect your judgement in the situation?
Thanks for your time
Well great question and a tough one at that!
I have to say there were many times during my career that I wondered if it was worth arresting someone. Many times that we arrest someone we know that the court system will not punish them much, and they will just do it again, and that we will arrest them again and so on.. but really we have little choice sometimes. When we see someone commit a crime, we are obligated to take action and to try to follow the laws we are sworn to uphold.
Think of it like this, I arrested a young women for shoplifting baby formula. She did not have the money to buy it and needed it for her kid. Did I want to arrest her? No. Did I have too? Yes. And I also got her a referral to a service for mothers in need when she got out of jail later that day. Just because she needed the milk, does not make stealing it OK. I showed here that you can get help, without breaking the law and stealing from someone else.
I have arrested other police officers before so no, it does not matter that its a cop or not. A cop breaking the law gives all of us a bad name and makes the public opinion drop. I have arrested fellow police officers for theft and DUI. And both times it did not make a difference, only that I was mad at them for making the rest of us look bad.
Hope that answers your questions…. be well and feel free to ask any other good questions like that one…
Police are being “pressured” into fulfilling specific targets on arrests and on-the-spot fines set by senior managers, according to frontline officers.
Speaking at the Scottish Police Federation conference in Aviemore yesterday, officers warned that a culture driven by performance indicators is leading to “inappropriate and bad disposals for the sake of generating statistics” and said they were being forced to chase figures rather than criminals.
Officers warned the drive to pursue targets would both criminalise and alienate the public.
STOUGHTON — Fired Stoughton police chief Manuel Cachopa faced up to seven years in prison when he walked into Superior Court in Dedham last week.
He walked out unshackled, essentially a free man, sentenced to three years probation and ordered to perform 1,000 hours of community service.
Cachopa, convicted of trying to cover up another officer’s attempt to extort money from a Stoughton businessman, was the latest in a string of police officers convicted of crimes in the region.
It also comes as law enforcement officials here and nationally take a tougher stand on cops who cross legal or ethical lines on or off the job.
Since December, three police officers in the region were convicted of crimes ranging from drunken driving to drug dealing. A fourth officer was acquitted of rape charges and a fifth — in a case similar to the one in Stoughton — was fired after a Brockton man alleged the officer arrested him on a bogus warrant to get him to pay a debt to a Raynham businessman.
While the cases make headlines, experts say the number of police officers who run afoul of the laws they’re sworn to uphold is low.
“We’re finding the numbers are pretty constant,” said Neal Trautman, executive director of the National Institute of Ethics and author of “How to be a Great Cop.” “It is less than 1 percent.”
Read more: Good cop, bad cop: Statistics show less than 1 percent of police officers run afoul of the law – Dedham, Massachusetts –
1 percent sounds small but it’s not as small as you think, this stuff is pretty common. It’s all over the world..
What do you mean by ‘wings during their career”?
1% HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. Must’ve been an internal investigation paid for by the Chief!!! I bet he sold a boatload of books with that statistic!
wrong again getoverit. They did sit down with me and talk about the mistakes. If you had been there you would’ve actually seen it with your own two eyeballs
Cops are human, of course they are going to make mistakes. What’s your point?
The problem I have is when the mistakes aren’t mistakes but policy!
Oh please Roth, let’s be real. If any of those oh so amazing officers that you spoke with this weekend started working for QPD or LPCSO you would feel the same way about them. You’re quick to judge them and assume they are all the same. Don’t discredit what they do! You don’t wake up in the morning put on a uniform and don’t know whether you’re gonna make it home to your family or not at the end of the day. You ramble on about “Oath of Office” their oath is to protect and serve and they do that! I’m pretty sure if you had an emergency and they responded to your house you wouldn’t turn them away would you?
I’ve turned them away MANY times. Ask them!
You’re pretty quick to judge and make assumptions about me. Is that how you roll in your day job too?
So it’s ok for you to judge and make assumptions about people but when someone does it to you you’re offended? A little hypocritical don’t you think?
Bottom line is, just because you feel a certain way about Gilbert doesn’t mean every officer in this county that puts on the uniform is just like him. You can talk about Gilbert all day and night till you’re blue in the face I could careless. The thing I don’t like is you putting down the Sheriff and Deputies and I will state my support for them just like you state your side.
I support the deputies! I even support Quartzsite police officers, just not the bad ones! I never once said every cop in this county is like Gilbert! WTF??? And FWIW every single day I wake up and get dressed and leave the house I don’t know if I’m coming back alive or not. Just because someone wears a badge and a gun doesn’t make them any more of a hero than a firefighter, or a truck driver for that matter!
nonsense is nonsense no matter how you look at it!
I support anyone in law enforcement who does the right thing, and when they are wrong I speak up about it, and I’m not afraid to put my name to it!
And I think someone is a bigger hypocrite who knows there are problems and does nothing, AND attacks those standing up to the wrongs!
I’d like to see a copy of that Oath they swore to that says their duty is to protect and serve. I may be wrong, but I don’t think protect and serve is in their Oath. It makes for a nice decal on the side of the car though!!
Oh now you feel as if you’re being attacked? Interesting. Coming from the most confrontational person on this page! The Sheriff handles issues when they have to do with his officers and his office. Just because he’s not over stepping his boundaries and authority and going to Qtz doesn’t make him a hypocrit. The Sheriff and those who work closely with him want nothing but the best for this county and that includes Qtz. Focus your hatred and insults towards Gilbert and realize that Gilbert’s issues have nothing to do with the Sheriff and/or the Sheriff’s Dept!
For what it’s worth, I never said firefighters aren’t risking their lives everyday nor would I considering both my father and brother are firefighters. I know the job is dangerous and there is a chance they aren’t going to come home, they are true heroes. This conversation wasn’t about anything other then those who wear a badge and a gun which is why I didn’t feel it was necessary to list all the professions that were risky. My appologies!
Tired, hyprocracy is just Mr. Roth’s nature, at least when it comes to what he thinks everyone else should do. To be fair, this is a common human traight. Ill explain with an example.
Many times on this forum, he has critized the QPD10 becuase they took to long to stand up to Gilbert. Saying they should have immediately stood up to him, even if it resulted in the loss of their means to feed their family. He critises any of the police who have to deal with the diffcult decision of doing whats right at the expensive of their livelihood. They should immediately fight the system when they feel peoples rights are being violated no matter the negative consequences they will receive.
However, very recenlty Mr. Roth had, what he believes to be, was an unlawful order from someone in power. Judge Slaughter ordered him to turn in his firearms. He has said many times he believes his second amendment rights were violated. When the deputy came to his door, did he refuse to follow the unlawful order, no matter the consequences to him? No. He complied and even called the deputy back to turn in a gun that they missed.
Now dont get me wrong. Mr. Roth did exactly what he SHOULD do. He handled it the correct way. He complied, fought the order through legal means, and won. I commend him for that.
But, he is quick to critize others for not standing up to those in power, no matter the consequences. But when his chance came to defy an unlawful order, he did not do it. A good decision, but its not what he thinks others should do. A perfect example of “do as i say and not as i do.”
The QPD10 are doing the same thing. They are fighting it through the proper channels, and i believe and hope they will be vistorious. But standing up for the right thing, when it can potentially harm you and your family, is a hard decision to make. Critizing them for taking to long when you yourself wouldnt defy an unlawful order is pure hyprocracy.
Yes Mike, i am critzising a lot of your statements. Despite that, and even though i disagree with you on a lot of issues, i hope you continue to fight your fight in quartzsite through the proper legal channels and win. Just dont be so quick to name call and insult everyone who disagrees with you on some issues. The way you talk to people can be just as important as the message youre saying. You’ll accomplish a lot more arguing points and changing the minds of those who disagree, than you will standing on your soapbox and calling names. I doubt anyones mind has even been changed because someone called them “establisment” or a “keyboard patriot.”
Common sense and tired, good luck! I have better and more intelligent conversations with walls! (or rattlesnakes for that matter)
I don’t disagree with everyone. Only you guys!!! Or, guys like you!
Look around, your County is an embarrassment. You guys claim to have lived here a long time, you sure have a lot to be proud of!!!!
Common Sense, I hope you are vistorious with your grammar battle.
And you have no clue how I handled my battle with Judge Karen “slaughtering the law” Slaughter!
Victorious. You know someone is running out of rebuttals when they resort to pointing out typos, rather than addressing the points made. By the way, that would be a spelling error, not a grammar error. A gramatical error would be using improper punctuation or wording. An example of both, “Your not addressing the point,”
I already know the next response. “You’re not worth my time uncommon sense.” An easy way to avoid having to reply to points you can’t rebut, while still allowing yourself to feel superior and think “hah, I told him.”
As I often say, the readers can read my posts and your replies and decide for themselves.
I’m finished rebutting you. If I responded to every single line of your moronic statements I’d have no time left in the day to “critisis” Jeff Gilbert and Don Lowery. (and Dan Field and George Nault too)
You are a waste of my time, so I’d thought I’d have a little fun with your spelling! (You are correct, it is a spelling mistake, not a “gramatical” error)
You made no points worth rebutting, it was all a bunch of gobblygook, are you John Drum?
And do you know the difference between your and you’re?
And I enjoy your “critzising”, whatever that is. Is that something they do on the rez?
Don’t for one second assume you are more intelligent then me, just because you can ramble on about completely nothing doesn’t make you smart. It makes you ignorant. Common may have spelt a few words wrong but he/she still made a valid point. Oh and just for the record; I have never stated how long I have lived in this county nor am I male.
I never said or thought I was smarter than you. I don’t even know you, only what you write here. I think people who are going to come across as some kind of authority figure ought to at least make a sincere attempt to not come across as an ignoramus. And spelling correctly is one way you can achieve that! I’m far from perfect but you’d never ever in a million billion years see me put my name to a post full of errors as CS’s are.
You/commonsense/andanyotherhandleyouwanttohidebehindasaredherring aren’t fooling anyone who reads this blog. You guys are the Establishment! The same people who have done such a superb job at making this County into the economic powerhouse that it is, a place where you can raise your kids and they can grow up here and get good paying jobs at the variety of industries in the area.
I’m against that. I believe we ought to send our kids off to college as soon as possible so they never set foot in this County again once they get their “higher education.”
I don’t know why you’d argue with me about this.
Sorry about saying you lived in this County for a long time. But all of you invisible posters look the same to me. I obviously confused you with another invisible poster! How many years have you lived here anyway???
Common sense didn’t make a valid point at all. In fact he/she/it went completely wide of the target. (many times)
Tell me the truth, is Common Sense really John Drum? That would be freaking hilarious if it was true!!!
I agree with your last post, I think our children should go to college and get higher education. I don’t want my son coming back here once he’s done with school. I want something better for him!
You most definitely have me confused with someone else. I am NOT the “Establishment” I am merely a 22 year old county resident. Being only 22 I’m far to young to have built this county into an “economic powerhouse”. I am just standing up for what I believe in and when I saw you among others attacking Sheriff Lowery I wanted to say my side of things.
I appologize that I assumed you were against the Dept as a whole. There are good people that work there and although only a few employees are residents of Qtz that doesn’t mean those that aren’t don’t find what’s happening in Qtz horrible! The only thing I was trying to say was maybe you guys should just sit back and really think about the situation the Sheriff is in. He’s an easy target, I know that, but no one knows what is really going through his mind. He may be doing what he can to help and you just aren’t seeing it.
The Sheriff may be doing what he can to help and I don’t see it, or he may be doing exactly what I think he is doing and I DO see it! I don’t care what is going through his mind, I care about what he DOES!!!
Based upon my experience and that of those around me that are fighting the corruption, he’s been a non-performer when it comes time for him to step up to the plate.
You see, we tried sitting back and waiting for him to do something, it didn’t work so we are now calling him out for being more loyal to his political friends than he is to the regular ol’ citizens that put him there.
And I was being facetious when saying children should get the hell out of here as soon as possible. I think it’s terrible that there are no opportunities here so they can stick around and raise a family of their own. The future belongs to the young. And if our youth have no opportunities there’s no future for them here, and there’ll be not much of a future for the parents as well.
There’s a reason we have a high percentage of elderly and poor residents here, and the blame is to be placed squarely on the Establishment that has made sure to line their pockets first and last!
If you truly want something better for your kid, I can’t think of anything better than showing him what representitive government is all about. It’s time the citizens take back their government!!!
This election VOTE NO INCUMBENTS!
DON’T RE-ELECT ANYBODY!
Do this every election until you get the right kind of people in office, then show your support for those that are doing the right things! Right now we don’t have ANY elected officials doing the right thing so we can start all over again. Yes, I know everyone thought we were starting over fresh last time, but the politicians failed you. Don’t reward them by voting them in again!!!
And another thing, If we elect someone and they disappoint, don’t wait 4 years to try and get someone better in. Try and get someone better in immediately, RECALL THEM!!!
Oh my gosh Roth you see Lowery doing nothing? What do you want him to do? Do all of us a big favor make a list and tell us exactly what you want Lowery to do. Again its all about YOU Roth and what YOU want. YOU just don’t understand what YOU want is not what can be done. And YOU put up a wall so you don’t have to understand why it can’t be done. Can’t wait to see what he types next.
OK getoverit, since YOU get to play mister invisible attack poodle, in another thread you said you knew why Rick Patterson got fired. Please tell us WHY Rick Patterson got fired. You have nothing to lose by letting the citizens of Quartzsite know. You told us to ask Linc Gilbert, Linc will only lie and you know that. And why did Jeff Gilbert hire him? A favor for the Sheriff?
P.S. I’d like the Sheriff to take a Constitution class with Michael Badnarik. I’d like him to take a class with Sheriff Mack too. And I’d like him study up on and intimately know what the role of a Sheriff is that takes his Oath seriously. If he’d just do that, Jeff Gilbert wouldn’t be an issue, and I wouldn’t be talking about it! Well, that’s not entirely true because if we had a true Constitutionalist Sheriff I’d be praising him here.
ANYTHING is possible if you just try…. You’ve got this defeatist attitude that is so prevalent in Amerika today.
“Mr. getoverit, TEAR DOWN THE WALLS OF YOUR MIND!!!”
http://youtu.be/OPR3GlpQQJA
Thats MS getoverit to you. I did say on another post that Rick was fired because he did something he should not of done. It was regardng Linc leaving. I’m quite sure Linc will not lie about what Rick did. And no way was Jeff bringing Patterson on board a favor to the Sheriff duh if the Sheriff fired Rick why whould he ask another agency to hire him? Blahahahahaha you want the Sheriff to take a class on the constitution? Oh I forgot your the expert on that. You act like every encounter someone has with law enforcement is a violation to some amendment to the constitution. I have been pulled over about a dozen times in my life and cited for speeding twice and never once did I run crying to the town of Phoenix that my rights were violated boo hoo hoo your officers were braking the law boo hoo. Yes Jeff had his officers hound certain people in QTZ and that was wrong those officers realized it and did stand up to him. I have a defeatist attitude? And use your spell check it’s AMERICA!
Yes, I am a bad Amerikan for complaining about Gilbert and his hired thugs. If I’m a cry baby because I bitch about police “braking” the law, I’m your huckleberry!
Why won’t you tell us why Patterson was fired? You have absolutely nothing to lose by sharing this with the citizens of Quartzsite and La Paz County.